The Great Debate: Population Sustainability

What is the sustainable population for the Redlands?

The Great Debate on one of the big questions for Redland City has been held!

Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 6:00pm - 9:00pm at Ormiston College

Leading Queensland industry experts argued from the perspectives of:

  • Environmental Sustainability
  • Development Potential
  • Urban Planning and Best Practice
  • Social and Economic Planning

Guest Speakers:

  • Mr Brian Stewart, CEO Urban Development Institute of Australia;
  • Dr Kathi Holt-Damant, School of Urban Design, QUT;  
  • Greg Vann, Urban Planner
  • Ms Vivien Griffin, Councillor Sunshine Coast Regional Council 

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Comments (15)
1. 24-09-2008 06:35
 
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in the last 5 years maybe more with population growth our major infrastructures were left behind with many problems on our roads and major youth problems,police and council kept very busy.living in the area has become difficult and at times,unsafe.
 
Bruce Warrington
2. 02-08-2008 16:50
 
Cr Vivien Griffin showed why Noosa's planning scheme was such a success - their planners used studies to show what areas needed protection both for biodiversity and ecological services and what were the lifestyle aspirations of the existing residents. They then fit the number of additional people that could be accommodated within those parameters.  
 
Now that she is a Councillor for the whole Sunshine Coast however, she has to deal with planning schemes from other areas. The one comment that I disagreed with was that she has to go along with these other planning schemes because they have been developed together with those communities. That may have happened in Noosa, but it certainly didn't happen in other Sunshine Coast Councils. Just like in the Gold Coast and the Redlands, we all put in our submissions, but they were largely ignored in favour of development at any cost.
 
Sheila Davis
3. 02-08-2008 09:03
 
Sounds like another case of the greying baby boomers saying 'well, I have got mine and I don't particularly want to spoil it by having to share.' I would like to think that my children will be able to 'share' in the Redlands lifestyle by having access to decent employment opportunities and affordable housing. All of these squeals of protest about ANY further development will further entrench the privileged position that some of us already enjoy.
 
gvink
4. 01-08-2008 20:28
 
Great start to the debate. It has highlighted that needs could exceed the potential. However the challange will lie in planning a sustainable way forward. Denial is not an option,...for both sides of teh fence!
 
Gunther De Graeve
5. 01-08-2008 16:40
 
Did anyone have a crack at putting a figure on the sustainable population for Redland City?
 
6. 01-08-2008 15:58
 
One speaker spoke of Elizabeth Kubler Ross and made mention of her book "Death and Dying". Another speaker passed around a handout that suggested people go through a series of stages ranging from denial to depression before accepting loss.  
 
While the topic of death and grief is a somewhat defeatist attitude when it comes to placing a limit on population growth within the Redlands, the topic can also serve to remind people of the importance of protecting our environment and culture.  
 
Death of our iconic species, native vegetation, casual & relaxed lifestyle will quickly occur if the Redlands continues to engage in unsustainable population growth and developments.  
 
Vive memor leti; fugit hora (Live mindful of Death; the hour flies).
 
Dianne Hausler
7. 31-07-2008 17:46
 
Thank you for the opportunity to listen to the differing views of the various speakers at the sustainable population debate last night. I enjoyed listening to Vivien Griffin speak, as I felt that she made a great deal of sense. I do understand that while growth in The Redlands is inevitable, if we care for our environment and wildlife then we are limited in the amount of development that can take place. I was disappointed with the way some of the speakers did not follow proper protocol when addressing our elected Mayor, Melva Hobson.
 
Jan Smith
8. 31-07-2008 15:38
 
I enjoyed the evening and was very interested in the debate that ensued. It is clear to me that this is a massive issue and digs deep into our community and cultural beliefs. The problem is that growth is inevitable, urban sprawl will affect us and we need to plan it carefully. Allow development only where it has minimal impact, supply the supporting infrastructure before the development is built, and be aware that Redlands is a physical environment that has finite limits for use. If we want to have a thriving community in a healthy environment the task for the planners is to balance these before we develop not to develop then expect future generations to fix the mistakes.
 
9. 31-07-2008 15:32
 
Thank you for the opportunity to listen to the sustainable population debate and hear from a wider audience. While there may have been few ideas that most community groups are not already up to speed with, it was interesting, however, to hear things the community has long gone on about, such as Redlands becoming a "sea of roofs" and "growing houses on good farm land" now seem to have become adopted into mainstream planning language. On the other hand, it seems there is a wide gap between community ideas as reflected in a new Council and the development industry. Opportunity here for the Redlands Institute to continue the education of those finding it difficult to come to terms with a sustainable tomorrow.
 
GGall
10. 31-07-2008 10:14
 
Given the evident age of the Mayor and many of the people who had something to say, I wonder just how \'in sync\' they are with the needs of younger people. I would be interested in what the cohort of 16-25 year olds have to say about the debate. If we are at the limits of growth, then how do we deliver the opportunities, the facilities and the future for our young people? 
What is this \"lifestyle\" we talk about? Let\'s define it. And be realistic about it. If it\'s been eroded, how can we get it back? And not just for the 60+ who seem to have the most to say on the subject. Ask our kids! Ask working parents. Ask the unemployed. Let\'s think about people who may be different from you and who may not have the same access as you have to cars, holidays, steady incomes, growing investments and your so-called \"lifestyle\".  
Where can our young people meet safely. Do you want your children\'s \'hang out\' to be the Alexandra Hills Pub? I worry about our youth. They are the future of Redlands and this country. We need to think about the next generation and what we leave for them.
 
BHope
11. 31-07-2008 10:08
 
I enjoyed the evening and regret having to leave at 830 and therefore missed the closing comments. It was no surprise that there was personal views/positions expressed which demonstrated the actual disparity across our and other SEQ communities on this issue. I would have liked more focus on the Redland City Municipality and how this issue can/will be addressed in future. There is obvious need for this debate to continue. whose in for round 2...
 
12. 31-07-2008 09:41
 
I was an attendee at the meeting and found it to be informative in many ways. My main comment in regards to the whole issue, would be my dissappointment at the totally one sided comments of our elected Mayoress.We live in a democratic society where rules and regulations have been put in place to serve everyone. I was stunned to see an elected official take a totally one eyed approach when this official has been elected to serve the needs of the whole community and not to just expouse her own personal bandwagon. Regardless of how Green you may be or how much you support developement the main issue we have had in the past and still seem to have is the total disregard to fairness and balance for the whole community. Too many people appear to be hiding behind the word sustainable instead of working towards a balance that would improve things for both sides and eventually the entire shire. With Regards
 
Adrian lachlan
13. 31-07-2008 09:23
 
Sounds like a rigorous debate was had...
 
Brett
14. 30-07-2008 22:38
 
There was some suggestion at the forum that the Redlands community was suffering from a dose of grief and therefore in denial about the need to grow. If this be the case there would be a need to place anti depressant drugs into the potable water supply given the widespread nature of the problem. I suspect a more plausible reason is that the Redlands community is very well informed. They understand that our performance indicators (all well documented), such as retention of farmland, health of our waterways, state of the koala and public infrastructure, retention of lifestyle, bushland and landscape values are doing badly. The community understands that the Redlands is not developing in a sustainable fashion and that it has exceeded its limits to growth.
 
15. 18-07-2008 11:15
 
A good time to be having this debate. Looking forward to input from others.
 

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